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Al Nasr Dubai 1-2 Shabab Al Ahli - May 16, 2021 / UAE President's Cup 2020/2021
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This page offers all the statistics of the match and the pre-match of

Al Nasr Dubai 1-2 Shabab Al Ahli - May 16, 2021 / UAE President's Cup 2020/2021

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Assist by Mohamed Ali Ayed (right foot) Mehdi Abeid

78'

42'

Federico Cartabia (penalty) 

90+4'

Federico Cartabia (penalty) 

logo Al Nasr Dubai AND

0
42photo Federico Cartabia 42' - Goal Federico Cartabia
HT

logo Al Nasr Dubai AND

photo  Caiquephoto Habib Abdualla Al Fardan 46' - Substitution Habib Abdualla Al Fardanis substituted by Caique46
photo Sebastián Tagliabué 62' - Yellow card Sebastián Tagliabué62
photo Abdullah Abbas Al Balooshiphoto  Gabriel Valentini 67' - Substitution Gabriel Valentiniis substituted by A. A. Al Balooshi67
photo Mohanad Khamis Al Qassabphoto Hussain Mahdi Mohamed 73' - Substitution Hussain Mahdi Mohamedis substituted by Mohanad Khamis Al Qassab73
76photo Abdalla Al Naqbiphoto Majed Hassan Al Ahmadi 76' - Substitution Majed Hassan Al Ahmadiis substituted by Abdalla Al Naqbi
photo Mehdi Abeid 78' - Goal Mehdi Abeid78
93photo Federico Cartabia 93' - Yellow card Federico Cartabia
94photo Federico Cartabia 94' - Goal Federico Cartabia
95photo Harib Abdalla Suhailphoto Federico Cartabia 95' - Substitution Federico Cartabiais substituted by Harib Abdalla Suhail
96photo Abdelaziz Sanqor Al Maazmiphoto Carlos Eduardo 96' - Substitution Carlos Eduardois substituted by A. S. Al Maazmi
FT

logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai SAA

logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai SAA

Team line-ups

Al Nasr Dubai

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forward
offensive midfielder
midfielder
defensive midfielder
defender
sweeper
goalkeeper
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12 Shambieh
photo Ahmed Mohamed Shambieh
Ahmed Mohamed Shambieh
United Arab Emirates
B.date20/12/1993
Age27 years
H1m78  
positionGoalkeeper
3 Ayed
photo Mohamed Ali Ayed
Mohamed Ali Ayed
United Arab Emirates
B.date13/10/1990
Age30 years
H1m81  
positionDefender
4 Al Balooshi
photo Yaqoub Hassan Al Balooshi
Yaqoub Hassan Al Balooshi
United Arab Emirates
B.date10/07/1990
Age30 years
H1m86  
positionDefender
23 Ali Suwaidan
photo Saeed Ali Ali Suwaidan
Saeed Ali Ali Suwaidan
United Arab Emirates
B.date19/05/1997
Age23 years
H1m75  
positionRight full-back
6 Al Hammadi
photo Mahmoud Khamis Al Hammadi
Mahmoud Khamis Al Hammadi
United Arab Emirates
B.date28/10/1987
Age33 years
H1m71  
positionLeft full-back
10 Al Fardan46
photo Habib Abdualla Al Fardan
Habib Abdualla Al Fardan
United Arab Emirates
B.date11/11/1990
Age30 years
H1m80  
positionMidfield
66 Mohamed73
photo Hussain Mahdi Mohamed
Hussain Mahdi Mohamed
United Arab Emirates
B.date24/07/2000
Age20 years
H1m68  
positionMidfield
92 Gabriel Valentini67
photo  Gabriel Valentini
Gabriel Valentini
Brazil
B.date26/09/2000
Age20 years
H1m69  
positionMidfield
9 Saba
photo Dia Saba
Dia Saba
Israel
B.date18/11/1992
Age28 years
H1m68  
positionCentre Midfield
8 Abeid78
photo Mehdi Abeid
Mehdi Abeid
Algeria
B.date06/08/1992
Age28 years
H1m81  
positionBox-to-box midfielder
11 Tagliabué62
photo Sebastián Tagliabué
Sebastián Tagliabué
United Arab Emirates
B.date22/02/1985
Age36 years
H1m81  
positionForward

First 11

Age Match num Note
12
G
Ahmed Mohamed Shambieh 27 212 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
3
D
Mohamed Ali Ayed 30 72 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
4
D
Yaqoub Hassan Al Balooshi 30 25 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
23
D
Saeed Ali Ali Suwaidan 23 43 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
6
D
Mahmoud Khamis Al Hammadi 33 198 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
10
M
Habib Abdualla Al Fardan 46 30 147 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
66
M
Hussain Mahdi Mohamed 73 20 26 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
92
M
Gabriel Valentini 67 20 25 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
9
M
Dia Saba 28 33 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
8
M
Mehdi Abeid 78 28 16 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
11
F
Sebastián Tagliabué 62 36 32 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player

Average age

27.7 years

Average number of matches played for the team

75

Shabab Al Ahli

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forward
offensive midfielder
midfielder
defensive midfielder
defender
sweeper
goalkeeper
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55 Naser
photo Majed Naser
Majed Naser
United Arab Emirates
B.date01/04/1984
Age37 years
H1m79  
positionGoalkeeper
36 Al Kamali
photo Hamdan Al Kamali
Hamdan Al Kamali
United Arab Emirates
B.date02/05/1989
Age32 years
H1m85  
positionCentral defender
5 Al Balooshi
photo Waleed Abbas Al Balooshi
Waleed Abbas Al Balooshi
United Arab Emirates
B.date11/06/1985
Age35 years
H1m81  
positionCentral defender
20 Al Hammadi
photo Yousif Jaber Al Hammadi
Yousif Jaber Al Hammadi
United Arab Emirates
B.date25/02/1985
Age36 years
H1m83  
positionLeft full-back
9 Al Balooshi
photo Abdelaziz Hussain Al Balooshi
Abdelaziz Hussain Al Balooshi
United Arab Emirates
B.date10/09/1990
Age30 years
H1m79  
positionRight full-back
88 Al Ahmadi76
photo Majed Hassan Al Ahmadi
Majed Hassan Al Ahmadi
United Arab Emirates
B.date01/08/1992
Age28 years
H1m81  
positionDefensive Midfielder
25 Khamrobekov
photo Odildzhon Khamrobekov
Odildzhon Khamrobekov
Uzbekistan
B.date13/02/1996
Age25 years
H1m80  
positionCentre Midfield
10 Cartabia944290+593
photo Federico Cartabia
Federico Cartabia
Argentina
B.date20/01/1993
Age28 years
H1m70  
positionRight Offensive Midfielder
3 Eduardo90+6
photo Carlos Eduardo
Carlos Eduardo
Brazil
B.date17/10/1989
Age31 years
H1m77  
positionOffensive Midfielder
99 Igor Jesus
photo  Igor Jesus
Igor Jesus
Brazil
B.date25/02/2001
Age20 years
H1m80  
positionForward
7 Masharipov
photo Jaloliddin Masharipov
Jaloliddin Masharipov
Uzbekistan
B.date01/09/1993
Age27 years
H1m72  
positionLeft Winger

First 11

Age Match num Note
55
G
Majed Naser 37 237 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
36
D
Hamdan Al Kamali 32 30 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
5
D
Waleed Abbas Al Balooshi 35 247 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
20
D
Yousif Jaber Al Hammadi 36 62 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
9
D
Abdelaziz Hussain Al Balooshi 30 298 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
88
M
Majed Hassan Al Ahmadi 76 28 241 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
25
M
Odildzhon Khamrobekov 25 9 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
10
M
Federico Cartabia 944290+593 28 49 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
3
M
Carlos Eduardo 90+6 31 41 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
99
F
Igor Jesus 20 40 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
7
F
Jaloliddin Masharipov 27 21 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player

Average age

29.9 years

Average number of matches played for the team

116

Substitutes

Age Match num Note
33
G
Adel Fadaq Al Hashmi 28
78
D
Abdullah Abbas Al Balooshi 67 20 4 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
55
D
Hamad Hassan Al Balooshi 21
13
M
Mohanad Khamis Al Qassab 73 27 30 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
19
M
Caique 46 20 9 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
49
M
Mohammed Ibrahim Al Jasmi 23
96
M
Abdulrahman Hassan Kahen 20
15
F
Mohamed Fawzi Al Jahwar 31
18
F
Tarik 18

Substitutes

Age Match num Note
17
G
Hassan Hamza Ali 26
4
D
M. M. Al Matroushi 32
62
D
A. S. Al Maazmi 90+6 32 199 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
37
D
Ahmed Jamil 22
15
M
Abdalla Al Naqbi 76 28 83 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
57
M
Yuri Cesar 21
34
F
Harib Abdalla Suhail 90+5 18 26 You have to sign in to cast your vote for this player
30
F
Mohamed Juma Al Balooshi 24
77
F
Ahmed Al Attas 25

Changes in the starting players regarding the previous match

Mohamed Ali Ayed

IN

change player

Gláuber

OUT

Yaqoub Hassan Al Balooshi

IN

change player

Abdullah Abbas Al Balooshi

OUT

Hussain Mahdi Mohamed

IN

change player

Tariq Ahmed Al Hammadi

OUT

Gabriel Valentini

IN

change player

Tozé

OUT

Dia Saba

IN

change player

Tarik

OUT

Changes in the starting players regarding the previous match

Yousif Jaber Al Hammadi

IN

change player

Abdelaziz Sanqor Al Maazmi

OUT

Hamdan Al Kamali

IN

change player

Mohamed Marzouq Al Matroushi

OUT

Waleed Abbas Al Balooshi

IN

change player

Mohamed Jaber Al Hammadi

OUT

Igor Jesus

IN

change player

Ahmed Al Attas

OUT

Jaloliddin Masharipov

IN

change player

Saeed Ahmed Al Balooshi

OUT

Majed Naser

IN

change player

Hassan Hamza Ali

OUT

Odildzhon Khamrobekov

IN

change player

Saud Abdulrazaq Al Mheiri

OUT

Federico Cartabia

IN

change player

Yuri Cesar

OUT

Abdelaziz Hussain Al Balooshi

IN

change player

Ahmed Jamil

OUT

Majed Hassan Al Ahmadi

IN

change player

Mohamed Juma Al Balooshi

OUT

Carlos Eduardo

IN

change player

Eid Khamis Al Nuaimi

OUT

Manager

Age

Match num

Ramón Díaz

61

16

Success rate in this team:

50 %

Success rate since the beginning of his career:

49 %

Díaz vs Shabab Al Ahli

0 victory

1 draw

2 losses

Latest figure on May 16, 2021

Díaz vs Ali

0 victory

1 draw

2 losses

Latest figure on May 16, 2021

Manager

Age

Match num

Mahdi Ali

56

80

Success rate in this team:

46 %

Success rate since the beginning of his career:

50 %

Ali vs Al Nasr Dubai

4 victories

2 draws

1 loss

Latest figure on May 16, 2021

Ali vs Díaz

2 victories

1 draw

0 loss

Latest figure on May 16, 2021

Referee

Ammar Jumaa Al Junaibi

9 victories

3 draws

6 losses

Al Nasr Dubai18 matchesGeneral total Shabab Al Ahli27 matches

13 victories

4 draws

10 losses

1 victory

0 draw

1 loss

Al Nasr Dubai2 matchesSeason total Shabab Al Ahli1 match

1 victory

0 draw

0 loss

Latest figure on February 04, 2023Latest figure on January 27, 2023

4th official

Abdulla Mohamed Rashid Ashtyri

2 victories

1 draw

1 loss

Al Nasr Dubai4 matchesGeneral total Shabab Al Ahli4 matches

3 victories

0 draw

1 loss

0 victory

0 draw

1 loss

Al Nasr Dubai1 matchSeason total Shabab Al Ahli1 match

1 victory

0 draw

0 loss

Latest figure on August 17, 2024Latest figure on October 27, 2024

Video referee

Essa Khalifa Al Hajri

0 victory

0 draw

1 loss

Al Nasr Dubai1 matchGeneral total Shabab Al Ahli1 match

1 victory

0 draw

0 loss

0 victory

0 draw

1 loss

Al Nasr Dubai1 matchSeason total Shabab Al Ahli1 match

1 victory

0 draw

0 loss

Latest figure on May 16, 2021Latest figure on May 16, 2021

LIVE

90+12'whistle
End of game.
90+6'Substitutes
90+6'Substitutes
90+4'goal

GOOOAAAAL!!

Federico Cartabia scores.
90+3'hand-yellowcard

Yellow card!

Federico Cartabia is shown a YELLOW CARD.
90+3'Penalty
PENALTY on Carlos Eduardo conceded by Mohamed Ali Ayed.
78'goal

GOOOAAAAL!!

Mehdi Abeid scores. Assist by Mohamed Ali Ayed.
76'Substitutes
74'Substitutes
68'Substitutes
63'hand-yellowcard

Yellow card!

Sebastián Tagliabué is shown a YELLOW CARD.
46'Substitutes
Habib Abdualla Al Fardan is substituted by Caique.
45'whistle
Second half.
45+53321'whistle
Half time.
45+53218'goal

GOOOAAAAL!!

Federico Cartabia scores.
0'whistle
First half.

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Key figures

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Al Nasr Dubai keeps its 4 consecutive matches without a win vs Shabab Al Ahli in UAE President's Cup running (since 03/06/2015). It's a record streak. The first of history

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Al Nasr Dubai keeps its 4 consecutive matches without a win vs Shabab Al Ahli surterrainneutre running (since 08/03/2019). It's a record streak. The previous one was back on the 14/11/2013 (2 matches)

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The last time Federico Cartabia scored at least 2 goals during the same game in his professional career , it was on the 02/03/2021 (avec vs )

Pre-match

Current form

Neutral ground

DAl Nasr Dubai 1-1 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai03/06/2015

VAl Nasr Dubai 4-1 Al Dhafra SCC18/11/2018

VAl Nasr Dubai 2-1 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai17/01/2020

DShabab Al Ahli Dubai 0-0 Al Nasr Dubai09/04/2021

Overall

LFujairah SC 2-0 Al Nasr Dubai21/03/2021

VAl Ain 1-3 Al Nasr Dubai02/04/2021

DShabab Al Ahli Dubai 0-0 Al Nasr Dubai09/04/2021

VAl Nasr Dubai 3-2 Al Dhafra SCC03/05/2021

DAl Wahda Abu Dhabi 2-2 Al Nasr Dubai07/05/2021

LAl Nasr Dubai 2-3 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai11/05/2021

Current form

Neutral ground

VSharjah 0-1 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai22/01/2021

DShabab Al Ahli Dubai 0-0 Al Nasr Dubai09/04/2021

DIstiklol Dushanbe 0-0 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai15/04/2021

LOKMK 2-1 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai21/04/2021

VShabab Al Ahli Dubai 3-1 OKMK24/04/2021

LShabab Al Ahli Dubai 0-1 Istiklol Dushanbe27/04/2021

Overall

VShabab Al Ahli Dubai 3-1 OKMK24/04/2021

LShabab Al Ahli Dubai 0-1 Istiklol Dushanbe27/04/2021

VAl Hilal Riyadh 0-2 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai30/04/2021

DBaniyas 0-0 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai03/05/2021

VShabab Al Ahli Dubai 3-0 Al Wasl Dubai07/05/2021

VAl Nasr Dubai 2-3 Shabab Al Ahli Dubai11/05/2021

Running streaks

Neutral ground Total
Drawing streak 1 0
Loosing streak 0 1
Unbeaten streak 4 0
Winless streak 1 2
Drawless streak 0 1
Scoring streak 0 3
Goalless streak 1 0
Conceding streak 0 3
Invincibility streak 1 0

Running streaks

Neutral ground Total
Winning streak 0 2
Loosing streak 1 0
Unbeaten streak 0 4
Winless streak 1 0
Drawless streak 3 2
Scoring streak 0 2
Goalless streak 1 0
Conceding streak 3 1

Statistical comparison of the season

Rankings

878

FBDB index ranking (Worldwide)

596

6

FBDB index ranking (National)

1

Results

3

Number of games (Competition total)

3

2

Victories (Competition total)

3

1

Draws (Competition total)

0

0

Losses (Competition total)

0

Goals

5

Goals scored (Competition total)

6

0

Goals conceded (Competition total)

0

1.67

Goals scored per match average (Competition total)

2

0

Conceced goals per match average (Competition total)

0

Betting aid

1

Number of matches with more than 2,5 goals (Competition total)

1

3

Clean sheets (Competition total)

3

1

Matches without scoring (Competition total)

0

0

The 2 teams score (Competition total)

0

Bookings

13

Yellow cards (Competition total)

2

1

Red cards (Competition total)

0

Key players

photo Sebastián TagliabuéSebastián Tagliabué2 goalsTeam's best scorer (Competition total)3 goalsIgor Jesusphoto  Igor Jesus
photo Ryan MendesRyan Mendes1 assistPlayer with most assists (Competition total)1 assistMajed Naserphoto Majed Naser
photo Sebastián TagliabuéSebastián Tagliabué2 goals, 1 assist during the last 2 matchesThe fittest player3 goals, 1 assist during the last 3 matchesIgor Jesusphoto  Igor Jesus

Historical head to head

Home

24 matches
7 v
3 d
14 l

32 gf

41 ga

Away

21 matches
3 v
8 d
10 l

27 gf

39 ga

Neutral ground

3 matches
1 v
2 d
0 l

3 gf

2 ga

Total

48 matches
11 v
13 d
24 l

62 gf

82 ga

Historical head to head

Home

21 matches
10 v
8 d
3 l

39 gf

27 ga

Away

24 matches
14 v
3 d
7 l

41 gf

32 ga

Neutral ground

3 matches
0 v
2 d
1 l

2 gf

3 ga

Total

48 matches
24 v
13 d
11 l

82 gf

62 ga

Largest victory

Overall
4 - 0
November 25, 2011
Neutral ground
2 - 1
January 17, 2020

Largest victory

Overall
5 - 0
May 16, 2008
Neutral ground No success yet

Latest head to head

May 11, 2021 - Arabian Gulf League 2020/2021

April 09, 2021 - Arabian Gulf Cup 2020/2021

January 15, 2021 - Arabian Gulf League 2020/2021

March 06, 2020 - Arabian Gulf League 2019/2020

January 17, 2020 - Arabian Gulf Cup 2019/2020

Best historical scorers against Shabab Al Ahli

photo Álvaro Negredo Álvaro Negredo 6 goals 2019 - 2020
photo Carlos Tenorio Carlos Tenorio 4 goals 2010 - 2010
photo Giuseppe Mascara Giuseppe Mascara 4 goals 2012 - 2013
photo Humaid Abbas Al Balooshi Humaid Abbas Al Balooshi 2 goals 2011 - 2011
photo Mahmoud Khamis Al Hammadi Mahmoud Khamis Al Hammadi 2 goals 2014 - 2015
photo Ismaël Bangoura Ismaël Bangoura 2 goals 2010 - 2010
First data collected by footballdatabase.eu on the 18/03/2010. All information before this date, if they exist, might be missing.

Best historical scorers against Al Nasr Dubai

photo Ahmed Khalil Ahmed Khalil 10 goals 2010 - 2020
photo  Lima Lima 4 goals 2015 - 2016
photo  Ciel Ciel 4 goals 2013 - 2014
photo Luis Jiménez Luis Jiménez 3 goals 2012 - 2013
photo Mohamed Juma Al Balooshi Mohamed Juma Al Balooshi 3 goals 2019 - 2021
photo  Grafite Grafite 3 goals 2012 - 2014
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Players with most games played vs Shabab Al Ahli

photo Tariq Ahmed Al Hammadi Tariq Ahmed Al Hammadi 23 matches 2013 - 2021
photo Ahmed Mohamed Shambieh Ahmed Mohamed Shambieh 21 matches 2012 - 2021
photo Mahmoud Khamis Al Hammadi Mahmoud Khamis Al Hammadi 20 matches 2014 - 2021
photo Jassim Yaqoob Al Balooshi Jassim Yaqoob Al Balooshi 15 matches 2015 - 2021
photo Habib Abdualla Al Fardan Habib Abdualla Al Fardan 13 matches 2011 - 2021
photo Amir Mubarak Al Hammadi Amir Mubarak Al Hammadi 13 matches 2014 - 2019
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Players with most games played vs Al Nasr Dubai

photo Abdelaziz Hussain Al Balooshi A. H. Al Balooshi 23 matches 2011 - 2021
photo Ahmed Khalil Ahmed Khalil 21 matches 2010 - 2020
photo Majed Naser Majed Naser 21 matches 2013 - 2021
photo Ismail Al Hammadi Ismail Al Hammadi 20 matches 2011 - 2020
photo Waleed Abbas Al Balooshi Waleed Abbas Al Balooshi 19 matches 2013 - 2021
photo Majed Hassan Al Ahmadi Majed Hassan Al Ahmadi 15 matches 2012 - 2021
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They played in both sides

230 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

48 matches

2011 - 2021

146 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

139 matches

2011 - 2021

128 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

1 match

2013 - 2020

122 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

57 matches

2011 - 2019

99 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

52 matches

2009 - 2019

53 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

25 matches

2010 - 2017
Total : 15 players
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They played in both sides

146 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

139 matches

2011 - 2021

37 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

120 matches

2011 - 2016

52 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

80 matches

2011 - 2016

122 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

57 matches

2011 - 2019

99 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

52 matches

2009 - 2019

230 matches

logo Al Nasr Dubai
logo Shabab Al Ahli Dubai

48 matches

2011 - 2021
Total : 15 players
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